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I hear the call for bike registration all too often. Let's gather up some strong arguments for keeping bikes unregistered.
Latest Activity: Jun 13
Started by Aaron Ball. Last reply by Ride2Wk Mar 13, 2012.
Labor's cycling election commitment document released last week says "Cyclists currently save the economy $63.9 million every year in reduced congestion costs and $9.3million in greenhouse gas…Continue
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You know that bike rule review that Qld is undertaking, it seems the old favourite of bike rego is one of the things to be considered.
As an aside, rego on cars doesn't pay for roads. If we say that we will accept rego in return for paths, are we adding credence to the misinformed motorists who claim that their rego pays for roads?
If we were registering bikes, would it even cover the cost of keeping a register or bike rego details let alone the cost of police monitoring. I suspect that there wouldn't be any money left over for path building.
How easily could an engraved number be ground off/covered and re-engraved?Most motorist bike rego rhetoric is about catching us running red lights etc. They are talking about a big number plate that they can see and which would be easily removed.
The idea that police would have a chance of recovering a bike is a pretty thought but, as Ride2Wk said, with a shed full of bikes I think I'll pass. I'd rather spend the money on a smeggin' big chain.
Why ask the police to do these things? We can crowd source it: http://www.bikeshepherd.org/
Something like the Japanese scheme would be OK but all of my bikes already have a serial number stamped on them, I have photos and kept my receipts so I can give police full details if any get stolen. Why would I pay more to register them? And if I did, my family has about 16 bikes, frames & trailers at the moment so that's $800 which more than most of them cost. My young kids have already outgrown 3 bikes which would have been another $150. My kids will go through at least 6 bikes from age 4 to 18.
Sounds nice in theory but when I add it up and compare it to the risk & benefits I'll pass on that offer.
Then when the police start stopping people to check rego.................
(Which is probably a reason they like MHL - gives them an excuse to pull over kids & rough looking characters.)
I actually like "user pays" & I wouldn't mind paying rego for better bike paths - but only when car drivers get charged the real cost of driving cars including the air pollution related ilness, obesity and other health costs.
Bumping an old thread. The police are coming to QUT next week to engrave bikes for people who want it as a form of theft prevention. They'll keep a register of the bikes they've engraved I guess. I know people arc up about bike registration when it involves collecting revenue for bike paths but what about for this? I lived in Japan for a bit and it was usual practice for everyone to pay an extra $50 or so at bike purchase time to have the bike registered for theft protection. As a non-Japanese it was an occasional annoyance as the cops there tend to assume non-Japanese = thief and they stopped me a few times to check my bike rego. On the plus side, I did once get my bike back when it was stolen. What do you think?
Great summary Ride2Wk.
Bicycle rego - Damn - how much for my hexacycle B-double????
Doc Martin you should definitly have rego on that "dangerous" high speed 3 wheeled Mango of yours. If you crashed it at 60kmh into a car it would scratch the Duco!!! :-)
Somewhere on my other computer I've got a lot of stuff I've put together on this previously. There's also some long winded stuff I've put onto Sydney Cyclist -
They will take a long time to read so here's a couple of quick reasons against bike rego-
BTW: this might be better as a Discussion under Advocacy or Policy, rather than a specialised group, Luke. That way people don't have to 'join' the group to comment. Cheers!
It won't happen:
It won't happen. If it does, I shall ride around unregistered.
City aiming to be America's most bike friendly hands out $400 fines for unregistered bikes
Councillors in Long Beach, California, are urging their colleagues to back the scrapping of compulsory bicycle registration in the city if it is to achieve its goal of becoming "the most bicycle-friendly city in America."Not only are many of those who have taken up cycling in recent years unaware of the requirement to register their bikes, claim the schemes critics, but fines for failing to do so are disproportionate, they maintain, according to a report in the LA Times.
The mother of one teenage boy found out the hard way about the law, when her son borrowed a bike from his cousin and came home with a ticket for $400 because the bike didn’t have a bell and was unregistered.
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